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Started 3 years ago by peer
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peer
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Mist.

http://derstandard.at/?url=/?id=1220458790994

Abgesehen davon, dass der Standard hier 8 Leute aus den 300 rauspickt und die CM als Obama-unterstützer hinstellt, finde ich es nicht ok, wenn 8 Obama-Fans die CM für ihre politische Message missbrauchen.

CM ist eine politische Aktionsform, gelebter Widerstand durch lustvolle Raumnahme. Und parteipolitik hat da nix zu suchen. Auch nicht Obama. Und nicht die Grünen. Und nicht die KP und nicht die Anarchisten.

Ich finde, der Artikel zeigt das wieder sehr gut und ich bitte, die Obamaanhänger, das nexte mal gerne wieder mitzufahren, aber ohne die Obamawerbung.

und ich bitte alle anderen darauf zu schauen, dass keine parteipolitische werbung auf CM gemacht wird. Obamafans können gerne beim Startpunkt Obamaflyer austeilen, aber während der CM ist es nicht fair, alle 300 CM-mitfahrerInnen zu hijacken. Und gegen alle CM-rules.

Posted 3 years ago #
hoefi
Member

war ein gefundenes fressen für die presse, die cm auf eine seite zu ziehen.
bin obiger meinung, die cm steht für was, nämlich für öffentlichen raum und den zu benutzen, und sicher nicht für parteipolitische, egal woher, irgendwas.
bitte die cm nicht zu missbauchen, danke

Posted 3 years ago #
Sym
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war/ist mir auch suspekt, unangenehm, nicht das, was ich mir bisher als criticalmass vorstellte. ich muss zugeben, dass ich mich aber nicht trau(t)e, solche leute darauf anzusprechen (und sie dann zu bitten, sowas zu unterlassen).

schade vom standard halt auch, weil so auffallend, wie es dieser "reportage" nach scheint, waren die 5-10 obama-leute dann auch wieder nicht.

Posted 3 years ago #
inoperable
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I dont understand much of the article. it seems like its written in not very hoch deutsch (bad for me, good for everyone else). What i did get, is that it sounded kind of like the obama crew was more involved in the whole thing and organization. Which i was annoyed at. I told that reporter specifically that they are seperate things and just coming together. but you know how reporters are, never write what you say just what they want to hear... I think i might be swearing off reporters when not to do with the gallery. But to be fair the reporters were there because of the obama crew not because of CM (unfortunately). I'll pass this along to the democrats and they can reply as well. Maybe they went alittle overboard but i dont think they meant to hijack the cm, just got alittle eager i guess. I know alot of them had fun and want to come again but we can tell them to tone it down alittle which i think would happen naturally anyway, they were just excited for their first ride...

Posted 3 years ago #
inoperable
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This was the initial reason for the obama involvement. A statement from the man.

Build More Livable and Sustainable Communities: Over the long term, we know that the amount of fuel we will use is directly related to our land use decisions and development patterns. For the last 100 years, our communities have been organized around the principle of cheap gasoline. Barack Obama believes that we must devote substantial resources to repairing our roads and bridges. He also believes that we must devote significantly more attention to investments that will make it easier for us to walk, bicycle and access other transportation alternatives. Obama is committed to reforming the federal transportation funding and leveling employer incentives for driving and public transit.

Sounds very Critical Massy.

Posted 3 years ago #
peer
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yep. sounds very critical massy. And I know a lot of similar statements from the green party, the ÖVP, the SPÖ and sure we can find similar statements by haider, strache, McCain and whoever we want.

If people riding with CM bring in obama, they bring in much more than only the statement you quoted. A lot of people might have to say a lot about obama. good things and bad things.

But CM is not about discussing pros and cons of obama. CM is about taking place together and feel the exitment of taking place back to people.

We should stay to that. CM has been solidarisch with other groups before, but never with parteipolitik and never without prior announcement and discussion on this webpage.

CM is political but on a far different level than obama is political or the greens are. There are worlds between obama and CM :)

Posted 3 years ago #
obamamama
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Hi from one of the Obama-ites who joined CM for the first time in Sept. (Sorry to not be writing in German, but you all would be more sorry if I were!)

My 13 yr old son and I enjoyed the ride!...will be back with family and friends...will tone down the Obama ads. I get it: not wanting CM to be politicized or used.

We talked a bit about Obama and U.S. politics on the ride but I spent more time thinking about biking vs. driving, political activism and the power of community, and liking Vienna's gentle hills.

Though surprised by the press interest, we went to the ride hoping our shirts and banners would get some attention. A sentence or a photo in a local newspaper or mention on the radio/TV means more U.S. citizen voters in Austria find us---we get them registered to vote, and hopefully they do the right thing in Nov. We are passionate about regime change in the U.S.!

And, no the reporters didn't get it all right. I wasn't on a Citybike, but on my old red one, that over the past 20 yrs has taken me around Colorado, El Salvador, Croatia and Klosterneuburg.

See you on another ride, next time with Obama t-shirt under my jacket instead of over it.
cheers!

Posted 3 years ago #
Weutzi
Member

Schade, bekomme von dem (fast) Text nichts mit mangels Englisch Kenntnisse.

Von den Leuten habe ich aber auch nichts mitbekommen.

Posted 3 years ago #

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